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Kurt's avatar

The mineral deal had an implicit security guarantee as it aligned our interests. That is a favorable step, one obviously worth taking. Z deep sixed it.

When you say, “Zelenskyy screwed up by not signing the deal, which I am willing to grant you, that's not reason enough to burn him and leave all his people turning in the wind while never saying so much as a single word of criticism about Vladimir goddamn Putin.” what do you mean? Do we send another $100 billion in arms? $200?

Honestly, I don’t see much of a favorable outcome for Ukraine either way. What can we do to stop the bloodshed?

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David Josef Volodzko's avatar

Again, I agree. But what I meant was not simply give him more money. As pro-Ukraine as I am, I'm also a realist. The American appetite for this war is winding down. On the other hand, if Ukraine loses bad enough and Putin is emboldened, he may take a shot at Poland, and then we're going to be spending a helluva lot more money.

And even if we do get a ceasefire signed and Putin honors it, we don't just let him steal the land and keep it without any consequences. And there are many non-military ways to do this: complete energy sanctions, seizing all Russian sovereign assets, a full trade embargo, blocking access to maritime trade, secondary sanctions on any nations that do business with Russia, UN expulsion, and so on.

This will need to be expertly measured. Just enough to make it really burn, hopefully shrinking Russia's economy further and making future such actions even less tenable, but not enough to trigger a military response.

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