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Ragged Clown's avatar

It's not just that the left has no Charlie Kirk. The right has no spaces that compare to the left-leaning universities that he went into. Most universities, for a conservative, are 'ideologically hostile spaces', but the ideology is so widespread that it fades into the background. Everyone is a lefty because everyone is a lefty. By contrast, there are conservative students, but they are rare enough that even a declaration that they are conservative puts them into a space where they have better things to do than argue with the libs.

I've become addicted, this week, to watching Charlie Kirk. Ben Shapiro and Jonathan Sacerdoti debating in places like the Oxford Union and the Cambridge Union. I was extremely impressed by all of them, and I thought they won the majority of their debates largely by just having a better handle on the facts. But I watched many of Kirk's debates with my more-to-the-left daughter, and her opinion was that he had no intention to actually debate anyone; he just wanted to win arguments by intimidating his opponents. Most of his opponents were absolutely useless, and Kirk trounced them because he knew what he was talking about. But every time he encountered a worthy opponent, he switched into 'aggressive mode', where he was not even debating any more. He was just deflecting and mocking and insulting. He had no intention to engage intellectually or to persuade anyone. He just wanted to show that he was better than they were. As I said, I was very impressed by Charlie's and Ben's knowledge and debating skills, but if their intention was to persuade anyone, they failed spectacularly.

Back to your question, though, there is nowhere like the Oxford Union on the right where lefty intellectuals can engage with equals, and there are few right-leaning organisations where a lefty intellectual can just show up and start arguing with young conservatives. There is little need for a Leftish Charlie Kirk.

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Rebecca T.'s avatar

This is spot on. The "my life isn't up for debate" viewpoint means that people on the left want to lecture rather than converse. A TED talk is a more fitting venue for them than a campus or town square. The "emotional labor" of educating combined with the "words are violence" schtick means that conformity to an ever narrowing set of correct viewpoints is the only acceptable course of action or you are a "literal fascist". I'm glad some people resist being told what to think but I'm not sure where this leaves those of us who support policies like universal healthcare but don't want to be badgered into other absurd viewpoints. As a side note: I'm coming out of 18 years working in academia. If I hadn't put in my notice to retire, there would be no way I would have responded to your post, linking myself publicly to it. Yes, that's how bad it has gotten.

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