I had an unmitigated blast with our first letter exchange, David, and I can’t wait to see where our conversation leads us. Thank you for crafting such a thought-provoking prompt freighted with your considerable literary, cultural, and historical knowledge. I appreciate your deeply nuanced thinking and am grateful to you for sending me to invigorating destinations I would not have arrived at on my own.
I’m not too sure who made the point comparing left and right fascism, or if it was simply referenced from another author, but the conclusion that left fascism was willing to go further because of a willingness to go further during covid (response) was missing two points. First, “willing to go farthest” seems to cut short and might be better served by adding “before killing them” as this ultimate violation of civil liberties doesn’t seem a problem for either fascist. When this point first came to mind I immediately wondered if it was actually going further or was it an extra step for left fascists whereas their right fascist counterparts would have been willing to eliminate the person? Or perhaps the extra ‘level’ of violation makes a left fascist violate civil liberties faster than a right fascist?
Second, and I think this might inform my first point, is whose hobby cause is the fascist embracing while executing their exercise in tyranny? During covid, the vast majority of horror-fear propaganda was targeting the left. If you dispute this, I’d urge you to create a new browser profile and social media account, “like” some traditional pre-covid (response) liberal content then try to find factual information. Although I haven’t done this for a year or so, I regularly used this to gauge the propaganda and it was so bad that I’m pretty confident someone looking will still be able to see what I mean. If you’d rather take my word for it, I found it impossible to find informative dissent and assuming the person was jabbed, they would almost certainly be forced to wade into a sea of “you are going to die” claims. I think this onslaught of propaganda helped turn covid into the left fascist’s “hobby cause” and so how does this impact the lengths they were willing to go? Does the right fascist have their hobby cause which they would create a ‘level’ further than the left fascist or, as I mentioned before, might it help them reach the ultimate civil liberty violation sooner?
I can’t say either way but I can say when you include the full picture it doesn’t paint either as the lessor of two fascists lol. Personally, I think people are people are people and given similar conditions, including but not limited to motivational causes, censorship and targeted psychological warfare, you’ll face comparable fascists.
MAA you have researched this thoroughly, and I wish I had the depth of knowledge you do in regards to the history of the Third Reich, Fascism Communism ie Totalitarian and the literature...
However I wonder weather your describing symptoms not the cause...the various strategies of deception, manipulation intimidation and domination...
where the cause is as Solzhenitsyn’s said “men have forgotten God...”
David Horowitz book Radical was an eye opener for me.. his message is that the Judea Christian ethos is based on the view man is flawed ie sinful and governance needs to be set up to limit power, ensure accountability and transparency... hence the Magna Carter introduced a concept of a constitution that enshrined the various processes to limits power, to put to writing the “law” that kept both Kings noble and countrymen accountable to one rule....
Jesus ... who you never mention, agrees with this and directed people to fix their own sin before besetting others.. and that evil flowed “out of the heart” not for outward compliance to tradition or even righteous laws...
He said to conquer sin you had to be “born again” to inherit a whole new nature on the inside...in doing so He saying you cannot be good without God and even said that of Himself.... it’s the ultimate act of humility..
But the radical ie the left try to change outward structures & loyalties without facing their own flawed humanity
Fascism and Communism are atheistic... they desire to be GOD, to be the ones who decide what is good and what is evil...
They like many on the left are self righteous.... what many don’t see is that in eating of the tree of Good and evil Adam and Eve became aware of both good and evil but in doing so their ability to decide what was good was corrupted by their knowledge of evil... and their whole nature had changed...and as most of us would agree they, we became imperfect, flawed and subject to deception...
But totalitarians being self righteous and proud insist they can rise above that...but never do... they ignore due process and subvert the constitution, rig elections and use propaganda to sell lie lie and more lies..
As Jesus said to the Pharisees you follow you father who lies ie satan
The terms left and right are often confused... Nazi are called right wing when really it’s totalitarian ..for the most part conservatives are trying to conserve Judea Christian values but often lack any real understanding of the Bible..
So there are many other aspects to the discussion on fascism and communism but the underlying cause is pride that says I know what’s right, I can make judgments alone, and I should stay in power regardless...
(it’s interesting that overtime the movement eats itself from fear of being replaced and as young one rise..
Many of the original communists were killed by their own followers..)
There is lot more to say on this but the cause of our current situation is men forgot God especially that they will be held accountable for their actions
On being a trail blazer or whatever that Indian term is I often reflect on Lord of the Flies ... only Ralf and Piggy had the courage to climb the cliff to face the fear of the beast... and Piggy was killed by the mob... it’s the fate of many who seek to expose truth in a sea of lies...
It’s also important to see that in Covid they were very careful to get 50 to 60% vaccinated through largely voluntary means before they introduced mandates... having the achieved a majority, they knew they could win... point being every person we can inform or encourage to understand what has happened both in adverse reactions and the manipulation... is one person who won’t fall easily..
The other thing is it’s clear now they used Bio warfare legislation to convince politicians etc to stay quiet .. and this legislation needs to be further exposed and stopped
Anyway enjoyed your discussion and admire your research..
I think there is an issue with the tsunami analogy. At first glance it might be correct, but when you extend the analogy into the future, it would mean that everyone, who did not run, dies. That is certainly not in the intent of the tyrants. Because it would mean the tyrants would be left with those unwilling to follow.
What the tyrants want is for those that are unaware of being used to be the tools that are in turn used to 'kill' those unwilling to follow.
The main common denominator is how to define Fascism...
This is my definition.
Fascism is the Authoritarian manifestation of a minority using Ideology over the needs of the majority.
It is a rule by brute force over the Truth.
As such... Religion, Communism and Fascism are equal.
It is Authority for Authorities sake.
Truth!
Where is the Truth in this society?
C.J. Hopkins for example is beyond Truth... he uses the Germans to sell his book dismissing the fact that in this new fascist Germany (and I agree with him on this) most of the Fascists are Jews.
From Ursula von der Leyen to Merkel to Annette Kahane.
The Antidote to Fascism is Truth.
Where is the Truth gone in this world?
We are facing a new privatized fascism and central to this is the WEF.
The German people are the victims here... victims for the 3rd time in 100 years.
From Hitler to Honecker to Merkel to Scholz to von der Leyen... they are all the same... Ideological Fascists.
This is a very sinister plot to destroy Germany and the roots of this go back to Martin Luther.
When Martin Luther translated the Bible he brought education and reason to the common man, something these people want to destroy Germany for till today.
When the pope sold absolution (which is ridiculous) for the sins... did he not do the same as the Green New Deal does today?
The sins of pollution are sold today in much the same way... meaning the poor have no rights and the rich have.
This is just another form of fascism... the ideology of material riches over the Truth.
And there is an organized rule to this... the Kol Nidre.
The Kol Nidre allows you to Lie... which means it is an Ideology that allows you to subvert the Truth... meaning the Kol Nidre allows Fascism.
Any Society that allows the Lie to rule over the Truth is doomed to end in Fascism and Fascism is doomed to fail.
Again... C.J. Hopkins in this matter of definition is a fascist... he can't even face an honest conversation about any topic with me because he fails... his arguments are non existent... and he exposes himself as a propagandist of his own Ideological inferiority.
The simplest rule of any society must be that all must comply to the same rules and that must be the Truth.
Any deviation of that cannot and must not be accepted.
Arguments must be laid out into the open for everyone to see.
Truth must prevail.
And exactly this is missing in our society globally.
There can be no argument about that.
It is however their plans of this Globalist Fascist New World Order that are known to mankind and therefore we have Fascism that must be rejected... which is again the rule of a minority by brute force over the majority.
I write about this in very details about the use of technology the central powers of the WEF WHO and Israel that use subversion and a centralized Global Spy Apparatus.
AI will replace the Fascist Governments and it will be automated Fascism.
That is their aim and you can retract Ariadne's threat to the Temples of the Freemasons, Illuminati & the Jews for that matter.
It is these minorities who want to rule the world.
I had an unmitigated blast with our first letter exchange, David, and I can’t wait to see where our conversation leads us. Thank you for crafting such a thought-provoking prompt freighted with your considerable literary, cultural, and historical knowledge. I appreciate your deeply nuanced thinking and am grateful to you for sending me to invigorating destinations I would not have arrived at on my own.
It was a pleasure and I'm already drafting my response!
I’m not too sure who made the point comparing left and right fascism, or if it was simply referenced from another author, but the conclusion that left fascism was willing to go further because of a willingness to go further during covid (response) was missing two points. First, “willing to go farthest” seems to cut short and might be better served by adding “before killing them” as this ultimate violation of civil liberties doesn’t seem a problem for either fascist. When this point first came to mind I immediately wondered if it was actually going further or was it an extra step for left fascists whereas their right fascist counterparts would have been willing to eliminate the person? Or perhaps the extra ‘level’ of violation makes a left fascist violate civil liberties faster than a right fascist?
Second, and I think this might inform my first point, is whose hobby cause is the fascist embracing while executing their exercise in tyranny? During covid, the vast majority of horror-fear propaganda was targeting the left. If you dispute this, I’d urge you to create a new browser profile and social media account, “like” some traditional pre-covid (response) liberal content then try to find factual information. Although I haven’t done this for a year or so, I regularly used this to gauge the propaganda and it was so bad that I’m pretty confident someone looking will still be able to see what I mean. If you’d rather take my word for it, I found it impossible to find informative dissent and assuming the person was jabbed, they would almost certainly be forced to wade into a sea of “you are going to die” claims. I think this onslaught of propaganda helped turn covid into the left fascist’s “hobby cause” and so how does this impact the lengths they were willing to go? Does the right fascist have their hobby cause which they would create a ‘level’ further than the left fascist or, as I mentioned before, might it help them reach the ultimate civil liberty violation sooner?
I can’t say either way but I can say when you include the full picture it doesn’t paint either as the lessor of two fascists lol. Personally, I think people are people are people and given similar conditions, including but not limited to motivational causes, censorship and targeted psychological warfare, you’ll face comparable fascists.
MAA you have researched this thoroughly, and I wish I had the depth of knowledge you do in regards to the history of the Third Reich, Fascism Communism ie Totalitarian and the literature...
However I wonder weather your describing symptoms not the cause...the various strategies of deception, manipulation intimidation and domination...
where the cause is as Solzhenitsyn’s said “men have forgotten God...”
David Horowitz book Radical was an eye opener for me.. his message is that the Judea Christian ethos is based on the view man is flawed ie sinful and governance needs to be set up to limit power, ensure accountability and transparency... hence the Magna Carter introduced a concept of a constitution that enshrined the various processes to limits power, to put to writing the “law” that kept both Kings noble and countrymen accountable to one rule....
Jesus ... who you never mention, agrees with this and directed people to fix their own sin before besetting others.. and that evil flowed “out of the heart” not for outward compliance to tradition or even righteous laws...
He said to conquer sin you had to be “born again” to inherit a whole new nature on the inside...in doing so He saying you cannot be good without God and even said that of Himself.... it’s the ultimate act of humility..
But the radical ie the left try to change outward structures & loyalties without facing their own flawed humanity
Fascism and Communism are atheistic... they desire to be GOD, to be the ones who decide what is good and what is evil...
They like many on the left are self righteous.... what many don’t see is that in eating of the tree of Good and evil Adam and Eve became aware of both good and evil but in doing so their ability to decide what was good was corrupted by their knowledge of evil... and their whole nature had changed...and as most of us would agree they, we became imperfect, flawed and subject to deception...
But totalitarians being self righteous and proud insist they can rise above that...but never do... they ignore due process and subvert the constitution, rig elections and use propaganda to sell lie lie and more lies..
As Jesus said to the Pharisees you follow you father who lies ie satan
The terms left and right are often confused... Nazi are called right wing when really it’s totalitarian ..for the most part conservatives are trying to conserve Judea Christian values but often lack any real understanding of the Bible..
So there are many other aspects to the discussion on fascism and communism but the underlying cause is pride that says I know what’s right, I can make judgments alone, and I should stay in power regardless...
(it’s interesting that overtime the movement eats itself from fear of being replaced and as young one rise..
Many of the original communists were killed by their own followers..)
There is lot more to say on this but the cause of our current situation is men forgot God especially that they will be held accountable for their actions
On being a trail blazer or whatever that Indian term is I often reflect on Lord of the Flies ... only Ralf and Piggy had the courage to climb the cliff to face the fear of the beast... and Piggy was killed by the mob... it’s the fate of many who seek to expose truth in a sea of lies...
It’s also important to see that in Covid they were very careful to get 50 to 60% vaccinated through largely voluntary means before they introduced mandates... having the achieved a majority, they knew they could win... point being every person we can inform or encourage to understand what has happened both in adverse reactions and the manipulation... is one person who won’t fall easily..
The other thing is it’s clear now they used Bio warfare legislation to convince politicians etc to stay quiet .. and this legislation needs to be further exposed and stopped
Anyway enjoyed your discussion and admire your research..
I think there is an issue with the tsunami analogy. At first glance it might be correct, but when you extend the analogy into the future, it would mean that everyone, who did not run, dies. That is certainly not in the intent of the tyrants. Because it would mean the tyrants would be left with those unwilling to follow.
What the tyrants want is for those that are unaware of being used to be the tools that are in turn used to 'kill' those unwilling to follow.
Wow. Loved this. Do more!
Absolutely—more coming soon!
The main common denominator is how to define Fascism...
This is my definition.
Fascism is the Authoritarian manifestation of a minority using Ideology over the needs of the majority.
It is a rule by brute force over the Truth.
As such... Religion, Communism and Fascism are equal.
It is Authority for Authorities sake.
Truth!
Where is the Truth in this society?
C.J. Hopkins for example is beyond Truth... he uses the Germans to sell his book dismissing the fact that in this new fascist Germany (and I agree with him on this) most of the Fascists are Jews.
From Ursula von der Leyen to Merkel to Annette Kahane.
The Antidote to Fascism is Truth.
Where is the Truth gone in this world?
We are facing a new privatized fascism and central to this is the WEF.
The German people are the victims here... victims for the 3rd time in 100 years.
From Hitler to Honecker to Merkel to Scholz to von der Leyen... they are all the same... Ideological Fascists.
This is a very sinister plot to destroy Germany and the roots of this go back to Martin Luther.
When Martin Luther translated the Bible he brought education and reason to the common man, something these people want to destroy Germany for till today.
When the pope sold absolution (which is ridiculous) for the sins... did he not do the same as the Green New Deal does today?
The sins of pollution are sold today in much the same way... meaning the poor have no rights and the rich have.
This is just another form of fascism... the ideology of material riches over the Truth.
And there is an organized rule to this... the Kol Nidre.
The Kol Nidre allows you to Lie... which means it is an Ideology that allows you to subvert the Truth... meaning the Kol Nidre allows Fascism.
Any Society that allows the Lie to rule over the Truth is doomed to end in Fascism and Fascism is doomed to fail.
Again... C.J. Hopkins in this matter of definition is a fascist... he can't even face an honest conversation about any topic with me because he fails... his arguments are non existent... and he exposes himself as a propagandist of his own Ideological inferiority.
The simplest rule of any society must be that all must comply to the same rules and that must be the Truth.
Any deviation of that cannot and must not be accepted.
Arguments must be laid out into the open for everyone to see.
Truth must prevail.
And exactly this is missing in our society globally.
There can be no argument about that.
It is however their plans of this Globalist Fascist New World Order that are known to mankind and therefore we have Fascism that must be rejected... which is again the rule of a minority by brute force over the majority.
I write about this in very details about the use of technology the central powers of the WEF WHO and Israel that use subversion and a centralized Global Spy Apparatus.
AI will replace the Fascist Governments and it will be automated Fascism.
That is their aim and you can retract Ariadne's threat to the Temples of the Freemasons, Illuminati & the Jews for that matter.
It is these minorities who want to rule the world.
It cannot / must not be accepted.
Truth and Freedom above all.
I stopped reading when you said English = R2D2